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:c. É. You cannot take this for a Proof, that he had no hyperbolical Expreslions in it. And yet unless it were, it is not at all to the purpose. But let me tell you farther; the Vindicator not only puts you in mind, that this is a Panegyrical. Ora tion; (a) but moreover that in this fame Dil course Leo speaks of fuck a Parity between St. Peter and St. Paul, as cannot -well confit, with a Supremacy. in the one, and Subjection in the other; and again, thae Cardinal Cusanus affirms of this Game Leo, that be bas freely ownd all good Bishops to be the Suc ceffors of St. Peter ; and by Consequence, that this Succession, either conveys no Supremacy, and to the Pope bas not a Title to it upon tbis account, ,or else.çon. veys too much, and so all good Bishops muft bave it, Either of which Suppositions quite overthrows your Hypothesis, and at lengçh concludes, Were I to give you up this Popes as an avow'd Advocate for the unia vers 2 Cupremacy, the Sum of all were only this; that by the fifth Century you have found one, Christian Writer, a Roman Bishop, and to Speaking for bimself, who in a Rhetorical Oration, declared for the Supremacy of St. Peter's Sent, and the Glory of Rome upon that accounts To all which you give not one word of answer. : - R. C. The Same Saint writing to 'Anastasius, Bishop of Thessalonica, whom he had made bis Deputy, to Help the Eare, says he, which we owe to all Churches principally by Christ's Institution; he observes that among the Apostles, tho' there was a like Honour, there was a certain difference in their power. That accordingly there is a Distinction of Bishops; and that it was very well ordain'd, that the Bishops of greater Cities, should have a more extensive Charge, by whom the Care of the whole Church might fiow to the See of (a ) Case truly ftared, p. 52.
Peter only, so that no part should disagree from its Head, p. 90. 91. * C. E. Yet after all I see nothing here that may not be answer'd from what has already been said in the third Se&ion, p. 3!, &c. and thicher therefore I refer the Reader.
SE C.T. VI. R. C. T Proceed next to consider some Obje&ions
: l of the Vindicator, and to shew how weak and incompetent they are, as to the purpose they were brought for.
C. E. Be pleas'd then to let us have them, and to see how effectually you will be able to demolish them. * R. C. His first Obje&tion, p. 7: (which is also Dr. Barrow's) is, that the Council of Chalcedon, Can. 28. gives Constantinople and Rome equal Privileges, tai Isa aseobina, because they are both Ime perial Cities, p. 104.
C. E. And a material Objection it is in my Opinion. He gives you also the Sense (a) of Nilus of Thesalonica as to this point, namely, that we learn from bence, that the Pope bad bis Primacy above other Churches given bim, not by the Apostles, but by #be Fatbers.' And that it was because Rome was the Imperial City. He advises his Reader also to consult Barlaam to the same purpose, and Sozomen. And it is to be presumed you take particular care to confute these, . R. C. I take no notice of any of them; but I tell you, which may serve as well, that the Canon can affect only the Patriarchal Privileges of Rome over those Provinces, which bad a Special Des pendence upon it ; but this without the help of a Peticio (4) Case truly fated, p. Le
Principii (that is without supposing the Question, and taking that for granted which is the whole Jubject of the Dispute) will not burt the Supremacy.
C. E. This is very strange. For if what Privileges it has were given it by the Fathers, and on. Jy in Consideration of its being the Imperial City, this utterly overthrows your Pretence of an universal Supremacy deriv'd to it from St. Peter. :
R. C. Though St. Peter's Succeffor bad neither been a Patriarch, nor even a Metropolitan, be would bave bad that Supremacy, that was given to Saint Perer before he was either of them, Ibid.
C. E. This is a Petitio Principii with a witness, where because you have not been able to prove the Supremacy you pretend to, you courageously Suppose it, and then set your own groundless supposal in Opposition to an unanswerable Argument against it. And if this be your way of answering Objections, you may foon get rid of them all with a wet Finger. The Canon gives not the least Intimation of any Privileges more than Patriarchal belonging to Rome, and had the Pope then fancied to himself such a supream Jurisdiction, as you now fancy for him, he would never have been contented with the Council's comparing his Privileges with those of his Subjects. Nor is it reasonable to suppose the Council would ever have enacted a Canon so much to his Decri. ment, as this would have been, but that they were well assur'd he had no other Privileges above other Bishops, but what belong'd to him as a Patriarch and Metropolican, and these given him too because of the Glory of the City wherein he prefided. So thac in your own Words I may return this Answer: You can never get any thing by your own answer to this Objection, unless you suppose the Bishop of Rome had a Jurisdi&tion beyond bis Patriarchate; that is, unless you suppose that which is the only thing in
"Question. I add, and whereof the Fathers afsemibled at Chalcedon shew chemfelves to have had no Nocion. : ..
R. C. The Vindicator objects 2dly p. 42. That it is a great Absurdity, that after St. Þeier's Death, Linus or Clemens, who at most were only Disciples, should have Jurisdi&tion over St. John the Evangelift. But if we must believe nothing that is strange, (though a Consequence either of Scripture or of Apostolical Tradition) we must bid adieu to Christian Religion, p. 1os.
C. E. Here you proceed again upon a meer fupposal, without any Proof, of Scripture and 'Apostolical Tradition being for this Supremacy. Whereas nothing of this yet appears, and the Absurdity here objected is a confiderable Argument against it, being such as is not easy to be believ'd without some better Evidence for the Truth of the Fact than we have yet met with. Nor will your Instances at all answer the Objection. That the blessed Virgin should be subiect to the Apostles in matters Spiritual and Ecclefiaftical, which was the proper matter of their Office, is not at all strange to me, how unaccountable foa ever you may apprehend it to be. And that our Blessed Lord himself should condescend during his Minority, to be subject to his Mother, was buc what became him who was (a) to fulfil all Righteoul
mess; and what cherefore you need not be exceed- ingly surpriz'd at, considering the manner and
design of this Incarnation, and to how much lower a Degree he was gracioully pleas'd to humble himself for our Redemption. Nor will his unparallelled Goodness in so debasing himself for
our Sakes, ever prove it reasonable to suppose an * Apoftle subjected to the Dominion of one who
was only a Bishop, though it were hiin of the
, K, Ca
R. C. Objection III. p. 42. Is the Authority of a Discourse printed at Cologne,,, Anno 1681. called Moiens sûres, &c. whole Author was of the Vindi. : cator's Religion; so that the Case truly stated may į be objected as well as Moiens sûres, p. ios, 106.
C. E. We have been told, as I have noted before, that this Treatise had the Approbation : of the Archbishop of Tholouse, which I should
think to be at least, a competent proof of it's being written by one of your selves. And what Evidence do you produce to the contrary ? Truly none at all. You flatly deny it, but it is too much to expect, that you should undertake to give your Reasons for denying it. Only he does not please you, and is therefore to bear Rigaltius company, and be given up for a Protestant in Musquerade.
R. C. He Saj's Cardinal Cusanus confirms what S. Gregory bad told us before, that the Three first Patriarchs of Rome, Alexandria and Antioch, and all the Bishops that were under them, fate in S. Peter's Chair. Now the Truth is; S. Peter, besides bis own See at Rome, was suppoled to have a special regard to Antioch, where he once sate; and to Alexandria, where bis Disciple, s. Mark, planted the Gospel. So that all the Bishops, and all the Parisli-Priests, within 'those Precincts, succeeded to some part of S. Peter's Chargeam But as only the Bishops of Rome were abfolutely, and strictly esteemed his Succeffors ; so they only inberited the full Extent of his Jurisdi&tion.
C. E. Here you tell us, s. Peter was supposed to báve a special regard to Antioch and Alexandria; which you must own is but meer supposal, on which nothing can be built. And if it were mahifestly true, how could his regard to those places, when he was settled, as you hold, at Rome, make the Bishops there his Successors? They had their proper Patriarchs as well as Rome; and whosoever therefore came into those Sees after
to bave a Jpe muft own is but And if it were