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instead of striking the averages by the twelve maritime districts, a general average of all the kingdom should be taken.
This proposition was vehemently resisted by Lord Castlereagh, who contended that in 1815, the Legislature fixed upon the the maritime districts as affording not a representation of the general average of the kingdom but a criterion. That from the nature of things the general average must always be lower than that of the maritime districts, and had the Legisla ture contemplated the general average, it would have taken a suitably low excluding price, 72s. or 74s.
Mr. Brougham replied to this argument with great eloquence; but, on a division, Mr. Robinson's motion was carried by a majority of 251 to 108; which of course destroys the whole effect of Mr. Sumner's motion.
Mr. F. Campbell called the attention of the House to the present system of administering justice in Wales, and pointed out its numerous defects, as compared with the proceedings in the English courts. He also contrasted the character of an English judge with that of a Welsh judge. After various observations, he concluded with moving, that a Select Committee be appointed to enquire into the state of the courts of justice in Wales; to examine into the propriety of abolishing the same; to consider the best meaus of including Wales in the English circuits; and to report their opinion thereupon to the House.
After a discussion of some length,in which Mr. Warren, Mr. Creevey, Lord J. Russell, Mr. Wynn, Colonel Wood, and Mr. J. Allan took part, Lord Castlereagh moved an amendment to leave out all the words after "appointed," for the purpose of inserting the following: "to enquire into and report to the House their observations, touching the laws relating to the administration of justice in Wales." This amendment, after some further conversation, was agreed to, and a Committee was appointed accordingly.
Lord Castlereagh, in moving for leave to bring in a bill to continue the Alien Act, stated the grounds on which the measure had been continued since the peace, and contended that they still existed in full force.
The motion was supported by the Solicitor General, and opposed by Sir R. Wilson, Mr. G. Baring Wall, Sir J. Mackintosh, and Mr. Lambton. It was carried, on a division, by a majority of 149 to 63.
His Lordship also obtained leave to bring in a Bill for continuing the suspension of that provision in the charter in the Bank of Scotland, which naturalizes
foreigners purchasing a certain amount of stock.
The House having gone into a Committe of Supply, Lord Palmerston addressed the House on the subject of the Army Estimates, but in a few minutes was obliged to sit down, from indisposition,
Mr. Ward then brought forward the Ordnance Estimates. The savings effected by the reduction of various establishments amounted to 16,0001. a year, but on the whole there was av increase of 133,000). He concluded with moving for a sum of 892,6947. 8s. 8d.
Mr. Hume went through the different items, and stated the increase of the present as compared with the last year.
Mr. Ward replied at considerable length. Mr. Creevey contended, that by law, the repairs of the forts at Barbadoes, and other islands in the West Indies, should be defrayed out of the 44 per cent. duties, a fund now expended in paying Sir C Long. 1500. a year, Sir H. Popham 500, and other pensions to Mr. Huskisson, Sir Fulk Greville, Lady Mansfield, &c. When be (Mr. C.) first introduced his motion relative to the Tellerships of the Exchequer, it was almost hooted out of the House, as an indecent attack upon private property. He had persevered, however, and the feeling of the country being pretty manifest, the Marquis of Buckingham and Lord Camden, after having enjoyed a sinecure of nearly 30,000/. for 19 years, begged, as a particular favour, that it might be taken away from them (a laugh), because they knew that though there were only 45 persons against them in the House, they had not one man out of it with them. The Hon. Gent. concluded by protesting against these items for repairs.
Mr. R. Ward observed, that the pension attacked by Mr. C. had been granted for public services, and had been confirmed by Parliament.
Mr. Vansillart was surprised at the way in which Mr. C. treated the conduct of the Marquis Camden, who had given one of the most splendid examples of public spirit recorded in the annals of any
Lord Castlereagh said, if ever an act proceeded from virtuous and disinterested sentiment, it was the mode in which the noble personage adverted to (Lord Camden) had resigned so large a portion of his income.
After some observations from Mr. Tremayne, Mr. W. Smith, and others, the several resolutions moved by Mr. Ward were agreed to.
Lord Palmerston then explained at large the different items of the Army Estimates. Resolutions agreed to.
A LIST OF THR
Those printed in ITALICS are new Members. Those marked thus (*) are for OTHER
SPEAKER, Right Hon. Charles Manners Sutton.
ENGLAND AND WALES.
Alban's, St-W. T. Robarts, Chr. Smith.
Aldborough (Suffolk)-Josh. Walker, * Ja.
Amersham-T. T. Drake, W. T. Drake.
Appleby-J.A. Dalrymple, T. Creevey, esq.
Aylesbury-Lord Nugent, Wm. Rickford.
Barnstaple-F. M. Ommanney, Michael
Bath-Lord J. Thynne, Col. C. Palmer.
Bedfordshire-Marquis of Tavistock, F.
Bedford-Lord G. W. Russel, W. H.
Bedwin-Right Hon. Sir J. Nichol, knt.
Beeralston-Lord Lovaine, Hon. Jocelyn
Berkshire-C. Dundas, Hon. R. Neville.
Bodmyn-J. W. Croker, Davies Gilbert,
Boston-H. Ellis, G. J. Heathcote.
Brackley-R. H. Bradshaw, H. Wrottesley.
Bridgewater-W. Astell, C. K. Tynie.
Bristol-R. H. Davies, Henry Bright.
Buckingham-Sir Geo. Nugent, bart. W.
Bury St. Edmonds-Lord John Fitzroy, Hon.
Callington-Matthias Altwood, esq. Wm.
Calne-Hon. James Abercromby, James
Cambridgeshire-Lord F. G. Osborne, Lord
C. S. Manners.
Cambridge Borough-Hon. F. W. Trench
Cambridge University-Lord Palmerston,
Camelford-Earl of Yarmouth, Mark Mil-
Canterbury-Ld. Clifton, S. R. Lushington.
Carlisle-Sir J. Graham, bart. W. James.
Castle Rising-Earl of Rocksavage, Hon.
Cheshire-D. Davenport, W. Egerton..
Chippenham-W. A. Madocks, J. R.
Christchurch-Right Hon. Sir G. H. Rose,
Cirencester-Lord Apsley, Joseph Cripps.
Cockermouth-Rt. Hon. J. Beckett, J. H.
J. B. Wildman.
Derbyshire-Lord G. A. H. Cavendish, E.
Derby-H.F.C.Cavendish, T.W.Coke, jun.
Dorchester-R. Williams, C. Warren.
Droitwich-Earl of Sefton, T. Foley.
W. E. B. Boughton.
Exeter W. Courtenay, R. W. Newman.
Glamorganshire-Sir Christopher Cole, Lart.
Guildford-C. B. Wall, Arthur Onslow.
Haslemere-Right Hon. C. Long, R. Ward. Hastings-James Dawkins, Hon W. H.
- Hon. F. G. Calthorpe, John
Plumber. Honiton-Hon. P. F. Cust, S. Crawley. Horsham-R. Hurst, * S. J. Aubrey, bart. Huntingdonshire-W. H. Fellowes, * Lord John Russell.
Huntingdon-J. Calvert, Lord Ancram. Hythe-S. J. Lloyd, S. Majoribanks. Ilchester-Sir I. Coffin, Bart. S. Lushington. Ipswich-W. Haldimand, T. B. Lennard. Ives, St.-James Robert George Graham, Lyndon Evelyn.
Kent-Sir E. Knatchbull, Bart. W. P. Honeywood.
King's Lynn-Lord Walpole, Sir M. B. Folkes, bart.
Kingston-on-Hull-J. Mitchell, D. Sykes. Knaresborough-Sir. J. Mackintosh, kt., Rt. Hon. G. Tierney.
Lancashire-Lord Stanley, J. Blackburne. Lancaster-G. Doveton, J. F. Cawthorne. Launceston-James Brogden, Hon. P. B. Pellew
Leicestershire-Lord Robert Manners, G. A. Leigh Keck.
Leicester-J. Mansfield, T. Pares. Leominster-Lord Hotham, Sir W. Fairlie. Liskeard-Hon. W. Eliot, Sir W. H. Pringle, K. C. B.
Sir J. Shelley, bart. Sir George Shiffoer, bart.
Lichfield-G. G. V. Vernon, Sir Geo. Ansou, K. C. B.
Lincolnshire-Hou. C. A. Pelham, Charles Chaplin.
Lincoln-C. W. Sibthorp, Robert Smith. Liverpool-Right Hon. George Canning, Gen. Gascoyne.
London-Matthew Wood, *Sir Wm. Curtis, bart. Thomas Wilson, George Brydges. Lostwithiel-A. C. Grant, Sir Robert Wigram, bart. Ludgershall-Sandford Graham, Earl of Carhampton.
Ludlow Lord Clive, Hon. R. H. Clive. Lyme Regis-Hon. J. T. Fane, V. Fane. Lymington-Sir H. B. Neale, hart. George Finch.
Maidstone-A. W. Robarts, John Welis.
Middlesex-G. Byng, S. C. Whitbread. Midhurst-John Smith, Abel Smith. Milbourn Port-Hon. Berkeley Paget, Lord Graves.
Minehead-H. F. Luttrell, J. F. Luttrell. Monmouthshire - Sir C. Morgan, bart. Lord G. C. H. Somerset.
Monmouth-Marquis of Worcester.
Montgomeryshire-C. W. Wynu.
Morpeth-Hon. W. Howard, W. Ord. Newark-Sir W. H. Clinton, K. C. B. H. Willoughby.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne-Sir M. W. Ridley, bart. Cuthbert Ellison.
Newcastle, Staffordshire—W. S. Kinnersley,
Northamptonshire-Lord Althorpe, W. R. Cartwright.
Northampton-Sir George Robinson, bart. *W. L. Maberly.
Northumberland-T. W. Beaumont, C. J. Brandling.
Norwich-R. H. Gurney, W. Smith.
Pembrokeshire-Sir John Owen, Bart.
Penryn-Henry Swann, *Pascoe Grenfell.
Petersfield-H.Jolliffe, Sir P. Musgrave, bt. Plymouth-Sir T. B. Martin, bart., Sir W. Congreve, bart,
Plympton Alex, Boswell, R. G. Mac
Pontefract Thomas Houldsworth, Lord Pailington.
Poole B. L. Lester, John Dent.
Reading-C. F. Palmer, J. B. Monck.
Ripon Right. Hon. F. J. Robinson, George Gipps.
Rochester-Lord Binning, Ralph Bernal. Romney—R. E. D. Grosvenor, G. H. D. Tennant.
Rutlandshire-Sir. G. Heathcote, bart. Sir G. N. Noel, bart.
Reigate-Hon. J. S. Cocks, Sir J. S. Yorke,
Rye-Peter Browne, John Dodson.
Sarum, New-Lord Folkestone, Wadham
Sarum, Old-J. Alexander, A. J. Crawford. Scarborough-Right Hon. C. M. Sutton, General Phipps.
Seaford-C. R. Ellis, *Hon. G. A. Ellis. Shaftesbury-Hon. E. Harbord, A. Moore. Shoreham-Sir C. M. Burrell, bart. J. M. Lloyd.
Shrewsbury-Hon. H. G. Bennett, Panton Corbett.
Shropshire-J. Kynaston Powell, J. Coles.
Southampton-W. Chamberlayne, Sir W.
Staffordshire-E. J. Littleton, Sir J. F. Boughey, bart.
Stafford-Ben. Benyon, Geo. Chetwynd. Stamford-Ld. T. Cecil, Hon. W. H. Percy. Steyning-G. Phillips, Ld. H.M. Howard. Stockbridge-John F. Barham, Joseph F. Barham.
Sudbury-W. Heygate, C. A. Tulk. Suffolk-T. S. Gooch, Sir W. Rowley, bt. Surrey-G. H. Sumner, W. J. Denison. Sussex-Walter Burrell, E. J. Curteis. Tamworth-Lord C. V. Townshend, W. Y. Peel.
Tavistock-J. P. Grant, * Vis. Ebrington. Taunton-Alex. Baring, J. A. Warre. Tewkesbury-J. E. Dowdeswell, J. Martin. Thetford-N. W. R. Colburne, Lord Chas. Fitzroy.
Thirsk-Rob. Frankland, R. G. Greenhill. Tiverton-Rt. Hon. Rd. Rider, Ld. Sandon. Totness-T. P. Courtenay, *John Bent. Tregony Lord Barnard, J. O'Callaghan. Truro-Sir R. H. Vivian, W. Gossel. Wallingford-W. L. Hughes, G. J. Robarts. Wareham-John Calcraft, J. 11. Calcraft. Warwickshire-D. S. Dugdale, Sir Chas. Mordaunt, bart.
Warwick-Hon. Sir C. J. Greville, K.C.B.,
Wells C. W. Taylor, J. P. Tudway.
Westbury Nathaniel Barton, J. Alford.
Westmoreland-Lord Lowther, Hon. H. C.
Weymouth and Melcombe Regis-T. F.
Wigan-J. A. Hodson, Lord Lindsay.
Woodstock-*J. Gladstone, T. H. Langton. Wootton-Basset-H. Twiss, G. Phillips. Worcestershire-Hon. H. B. Lygon, Sir T. E. Winnington, bart.
Worcester-T. H. Davies, Lord Deerhurst, Wycombe-Sir T. Baring. bart. Sir J. D.. King, bart.
Yarmouth, Great-Hon. Geo. Anson, C. E. Rumbold.
Yarmouth (Hants)-Sir C. Pole, bart., T. H Broadhead.
Yorkshire-Lord Milton, J. A. S. Wortley. York-Robert Chaloner, Marmaduke Wy vill, SCOTLAND.
Durham County-Hon. W. J. F. V. Powlett,
J. G. Lambton.
Durham M. A. Taylor, Sir Henry Har.
East Looe-T. P. Macqueen, *G. W.
Essex-C. C. Western, Sir Eliah Harvey,
K. C. B.
W. E. B. Boughton.
Exeter W. Courtenay, R. W. Newman.
Glamorganshire-Sir Christopher Cole, Lart.
Gloucester-E. Webb, R. B. Cooper.
Haslemere-Right Hon. C. Lon
Herefordshire-Sir J. G.
Hereford-Hon. J. S. ( damore.
J. Sebright, bart.
Hon. F. C.
ard, J. Parsons,
. J. M. Clements. Fitzgibbon, Standish
Dawson, A. R. Stewart, Forbes, Sir G. Fetherstone,
Hon. J. Foster, Ld. Jocelyn. ick Browne, James Browne. of Bective, Sir M. Somerville,
-C. P. Leslie, Hon. R. H. West
County Sir H. Parnell, bart. Et
ORA. French, Hon. S. Mahon.
Tyrone Right Hon. Sir J. Stewart, bart,
Wexford-R. S. Carew, Lord Stopford
Rea, bart. Carrickfergus Arthur Chichester.
Carlow Charles Harvey.
Coleraine-Sir J. P. Beresford, bart.
Downpatrick-J. W. Maxwell.
Right Hon. W. C.
Dungannon-Hon. Thomas Knox.
JRBO'Neil, H.Seymour. Ennis-Richard Wellesley.
Hon. J. M. Barry, N. Sneyd.
Bromalow, Hon. H. Caulfield. Enniskillen-Richard Magennis.
Kilkenny Right Hon. Dennis Browne.
V. Hart, Earl of Mount Londonderry-Rt. Hon. Sir G. F. Hill, bl.
Lord Castlereagh, Lord A. Hill.
Cole, G. C.B.
James Daly, Richard Martin.
Mallow W. W. Becher.
Waterford-Rt. Hon. Sir. J. Newport, bart
-Lord W. Fitzgerald, R. Latouche. Youghall-John Hyde.