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fer is proof against you, for it says, "Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God, even our Father, which hath saved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts, and establish you in every good word and work." In these words the Apostle had no reference to a future state: he was speaking of the happiness which they, as christians, then enjoyed. But could they not fall back and lose their faith and love? Did not the apostle exhort his brethren to continue faithful unto the end? Did not the love of many wax cold in his day as the consequence of persecution? Then their consolation was not endless, although styled everlasting.

If, however, 2d. Thess. ii. 16. referred to futurity, it would fail of sustaining your position. We admit that aion is often used in an unlimited sense; but as it is variously used, sometimes in a limited and sometimes in an unlimited sense, it is for you to prove, that when applied to punishment, it signifies endless. The circumstance that things unseen are called aionion, proves nothing, because their nature is endless; and therefore, the word when applied to them has an endless signification, the same as when applied to God. As 2 Tim. ii. 10, and Rom. vi. 22, would not sustain your views, even admitting they refer to faturity, I

will pass them by simply remarking, that it is not enongh to prove that we read of aionion glory and aionion life; for the glory and life of the Gospel are entirely different in their nature from punishment. Besides, there are other words applied to the glory and life of the Gospel, which are strictly unequivocal in their meaning-such as endless, incorruptible and immortal-words that are never applied to sin or any of its consequences. Your conclusion, therefore, respecting the duration of punishment is unfounded. Indeed, I might as well say, because aion is applied to the priesthood of Aaron, it is endless, as you can say, punishment is endless, because we read of aionion punishment.

In the same paper containing the above, Mr. Skinner published the note, soon after which Mr. M'Kee accepted the proposi

tion.

We understand that Philadelphia wishes to have a controversy with us through the columns of the Pioneer. We will cheerfully comply with his request on condition that he will write over his own signature, and on no other condition.

THEOLOGICAL DISCUSSION.

LETTER, NO. I.

BALTIMORE, Oct. 20th, 1834.

To Rev. Otis A. Skinner:

Dear Sir, I perceive by a note in the 24th number of the Southern Pioneer" that you have no objection to discuss the doctrine of Universalism with "Philadelphia" through your columns, on the condition that he will write over his proper signature. With this condi tion I will cheerfully comply and shall therefore proceed, bye and bye, to offer some objections to the system of Universalism, and try to refute the arguments by which it is supported, as far as they have come to my knowledge or shall come to it. I wish to pursue this course because I consider it a duty I owe to truth, to my neighbour, and to God; as I am fully per suaded the doctrine in question is a dangerous heresy, first introduced into the christian church by Origen and Clement of Alexandria, and afterwards propagated by artful and cunning

men, who found it necessary to resort to the mean artifice of torturing and perverting the words and phrases of Sacred Scripture from their proper signification, to render the doctrine plausible in the estimation of the illiterate. Universalism appears rather to be a heap of wild confusion without form, than a system, possessing that regularity and consistency which are necessary to attract the attention of wise and discriminating men. It is more like the confusion of Babel than a doctrine coming from a God of order and regularity. It appears to me that every Universalist has a view of the doctrine peculiar to himself, or, rather holds a doctrine which is the mere creature of his own imagmation. When searching after truth I found the following fivc systems of Universalism, all of which have been taught by Universalists by means of books and otherwise, each of which differs from the rest in some important point or other.

1. There is a dreadful hell or place of punishment in which the wicked of mankind and all devils shall be punished after this life but it is not eternal, for it will come to an end and all its inhabitants shall escape to the mansions of endless felicity.

2. The wicked shall be punished in proportion to their crimes, in a future state, and thereby fully satisfy all the demands of the law, and finally get to Heaven upon the ground of right, independently of the mercy of God or the atonement made by Jesus Christ.

3. The wicked shall be punished proportionably to the magnitude and number of their crimes, but it is not known whether it shall

take place in this life or that which is to come, after which they shall be saved by forgiveness of sin through the mercy of God.

4. There is no hell or place of punishment in a future state of existence, for all the wicked shall be punished in this life and shall go direct to Heaven the instant the soul leaves the body.

5. The soul is not immortal in its rature or constitution, and therefore the souls of the wicked shall be annihilated.

Now, sir, I wish to know which of these five systems I am to take for genuine Universalism. Each had its time, its admirers and its advocates. Which one do you espouse? Or do you support the whole en masse? Or, have you invented one of your own? To these inquiries I wish you to give me decisive answers, as I will then know how to proceed and not till then.

These questions I consider altogether fair and proper, consequently I will expect an unequivocal answer to each of them. If you do not answer them I will think that you wish to keep the people in the dark on the subject because you know it will not bear the light of an open and candid investigation.

With regard to your "reply to Philadelphia" I would remark, that the doctrine of endless punishment is not depending entirely on Paul, Peter, John, or Jude; nor is it depending for support on the words sheol, gehenna, hades, or tartarus; for, there are other proofs which I have to lay before your readers, that will be more difficult for you to digest than perhaps any which you have let into your paper, though I shall avail myself of all the helps I can collect from those sources. Suppose for the pre

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