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dian nations to abandon their country, and seek a newly turned, and the influence of which has been felt by one home in a distant land, he has explicitly stated, too, that of the great parties which divided the country, it was the they should be distinctly informed that if they remain apprehension that the new Government was either too mowithin the limits of the States they must be subject to narchical in principle, or would turn out to be so in practheir laws"-and that, "in return for their obedience as tice. This alarm, too, was chiefly founded on the opinion individuals, they will, without doubt, be protected in the that the constitution had provided no adequate security to enjoyment of those possessions which they have improved the States, by imposing definite and effectual limitations by their industry. But," he adds, "it seems to me vision on the executive power and executive discretion. It has ary to suppose that in this state of things claims can be al- been a fruitful source of crimination, whether just or unlowed on tracts of country on which they have neither just, upon one of the parties, and especially upon Genedwelt nor made improvements, merely because they have ral Hamilton and his friends, that the tendency of their seen them from the mountain, or passed them in the principles, and the measures which they had advised was chase." These are the doctrines of the Executive, in the to invest the President with powers, which must prove fawords of the message. They are little short of a copy of tal to the wholesome influence of the House of Representtheir original, and I might almost as well have read them atives, and destroy the control of the States in the Senate. from the report and resolutions of Georgia. These are Under these banners battles have been fought and wondoctrines, too, which the United States set up in the face of and laurels have either been or thought to have been gathe treaty of Holston! The guaranty of that treaty, sir, thered. They have certainly been claimed as the rewards was to the Cherokee nation, and to the lands of the nation, of victory, and are even yet worn here as the hereditary and not to individuals. Now, what, on the other hand, is honors of the field. the palpable operation, indeed, I may say, the express enactments of the laws of Georgia, but to annihilate completely the political capacity, and abolish the Government of the Cherokees, and reduce them all to individuals? There is to be no longer any nation there. In the language of the message, they are to receive protection hereafter "like other citizens-of Georgia, I presune-and not from the United States. The other party to our treaty no longer exists. The bill before you follows out these principles, and authorizes the President to purchase the improvements on the lands of the Cherokee nation from the individuals who happen to cultivate them for the time being, under their own regulations among themselves, and expressly prohibits any Cherokee from re-occupying them afterwards. These lands then pass to Georgia under our compact. The Executive has expressly yielded to Georgia the power to accomplish this object, by the extinction of the national capacity of the Cherokees under her laws. It is an idle waste of words to enter upon any formal reasoning to show that he has thus assumed the power to abrogate the treaty itself. If he has the power under the constitution to do what he has done, it is a mere mockery, and an insult to the Cherokees and to common sense, to talk about the treaty of Holston as a thing which has any existence. I do not know whom he may have consulted or who has recommended to him the course which he has seen fit to adopt with this treaty; but I trust, at least, that this illustration of our notions of public faith has received no countenance from that member of his cabinet whom we have been accustomed to consider as standing in the nearest relation to his person, and whose duties have made him the confidential adviser of the President in negotiations with other powers.

The question before us does not involve the right of the President, in the recess of Congress, to decide, in the first instance, for the regulation of his conduct until they can be convened, the mere construction of the terms of a treaty-nor to determine the effect of an infraction of any of its engagements by the other party. There is nothing ambiguous or of doubtful interpretation on the face of the Cherokee and Creek treaties, and no pretence has been set up that they have been disregarded by the Executive, because these nations have not observed them on their part, and kept their faith with us honestly. They were well understood originally on all sides, and are framed in language that cannot be perverted. There can be no quibbling as to the real intention of both parties. The terms are not susceptible of different significations, and the expressions used are definite, and suitable to the subject-matter of them. It is enough, however, that the Executive has not assumed to act on this ground, and the complaints of bad faith are, unfortunately, all on the other side. Nor are we examining whether the casus fœderis has occurred under any treaty with a third party, by which any engagements on our part, not operative before, have come into force. He claims the broad power that it is for the Executive to determine the abrogation of our stipu lations, because Georgia has enacted certain laws for more effectually exercising the jurisdiction which she claims over the Cherokee nation and their lands. He maintains the right, in that department of the Government, to treat the obligations by which the United States are bound on the face of the treaties, as annulled from that time-that they shall be reduced to mean nothing any longer—in a word that from that time they have no existence as treaties with the Cherokee or Creek nations. This is the docAt the threshold of this inquiry, we shall find ourselves trine which must be sustained, and it is this stretch of exemet with a very grave question, intimately connected with cative power which must be vindicated by those who the treaty making power, which I hope those who intend support the measures of the President. The doctrine to sustain what has been done, will be able to answer to will reach our treaties with other powers, too, as well as the satisfaction of the House. I am the more anxious to those now before us; for we are examining the right of the know their views of it, as we have heard some specious Executive Department to determine such a question at all, appeals to the friends of State rights, to come forward on in any case, and not whether he has decided it correctly in this occasion, and sustain their principles. The alarm has this. But, sir, the power asserted will be found to be been sounded, and they have rushed to the standard with much higher than the Executive claims it to be. The asan alacrity which leaves us no reason to doubt that they sumption on which it ostensibly rests in the message, is, have really believed their favorite doctrines to be in jeo- that, by the happening of the contingency that Georgia pardy. I fear that these appeals have had some influence has "extended" her laws over the Cherokees, the treaty upon the question before us. Their principles, or at least has now come into collision with the jurisdiction of the what others have assumed for them to be so, have been pressed into service with a zeal indicative of such confidence, that consistency required them to come forward, and give their support to the course which has been taken by the Executive with these treaties.

If there was any point on which, more than any other, the opposition to the adoption of the constitution original

But the principle

State, and must therefore be yielded.
which lurks under this disguise, really goes to the total
annihilation of the treaties from the beginning, and as-
sumes that they were never binding on the United States
at all. If they ever were so, no act of one of the States
could discharge our obligations. The jurisdiction of Geor
gia must have been as perfect when these treaties were

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first made, as it was in 1827, and the general laws of the Its validity rests upon that, and its force and operation are State must have always been applied, to the Cherokee coun- sustained by that. When once fixed, and adopted as the law try. If the treaties are invalid now, they were always so. of the land, the Executive has no dispensing power. His The right of Georgia to the improvements of the Chero- own duty is plainly prescribed in the constitution. The con kees, too, is as perfect as it is to their vacant lands-there trol of theS tates over his will has been constitutionally interis no hiding place half way. There is no middle ground posed to very little purpose, if treaties are to take effect or on which the Executive can stand. I doubt if there was not, or be suspended in their operations afterwards, at his ever meant to be any, for less than the whole would not pleasure, without any violation of them by the other party. reach the object to be attained. The principle set up They are clothed with a sanctity which entitles them to bighcannot be arrested at any point short of the total prostra-er respect than our mere municipal regulations. There are tion of the treaties, and the unqualified power in the Exe- two parties to them, and the public faith secures their incutive to mould and fashion them, and to annihilate these, violability. And yet it has been gravely asserted, and ator any other treaties, at his own will and pleasure. He tempted to be maintained, that after the States have enter asks no advice from any other department, and consults ed into treaties, the Executive may revise their solemn no co-ordinate branch of the Government. He acknow- acts; that he may judge over the States and above the ledges no obligation to submit such a question to Congress, States; that he may entertain an appeal from them to himor even to the Senate. His march is onward to the direct self or his cabinet; that he may virtually abrogate their accomplishment of the executive will, as if the whole ac- treaties by an order in council, and give the force of law tion of the Government on this subject was the exclusive to an executive proclamation. The treaties and the law attribute of executive power. It is this, sir, which has of nations constitute the public law of the Union. They led to all our embarrassments, and brought about the pre- deeply concern private right as well as the political relasent disorderly condition of the Government in this mat- tions of the country. If a question should arise between ter. It is to support measures and doctrines like these, one of your citizens and the Government, or a foreign that appeals have been made, on this occasion, to the power, would the judiciary regard an interposition of the friends of State rights. I think that, if they examine their executive power, which professed to exercise the right of principles carefully, we have reason to believe that they impugning the integrity of your treaties? The power, sir,! will be found on the other side of the question. to adjust and settle the conventional law of all countries, It is well known that the disposition of the treaty-mak- must exist somewhere in all Governments. It is vested ing power was one of the most difficult points to be set- here in the States themselves, and, when they have esta tled in the convention of 1787. In Europe, it was in the blished it, the political rights of others become irrevocable. bands of the sovereign, and was liable to the greatest You are denied the power of unsettling it, or revoking abuse. It had been used there for personal objects, and your obligations at your own pleasure. Above all things. perverted to the most mischievous designs of ambition. we have never trusted the Executive with that dangerous The whole policy of many of the European Governments prerogative. The Senate was vested with the power to had been seriously involved in the exercise of this power, determine the conventional law of the Union, because they and it had led to measures the most fatal to their prosperity are the peculiar guardians and conservators, as well as the and peace. Indeed, sir, many of the calamities which representatives of the States, in the exercise of that funethey suffered for a century, may be traced to the abuse of tion of their sovereignty. In such matters as, in the exerthis power in the hands of the Crown. It was in the view cise of this high political attribute, might affect her citizens of this evil, that under our constitution it was considered or their own jurisdictions, it could be safely trusted nounsafe to trust it to the Executive. In Europe it was pre- where else. The individual States were denied this power, rogative, but here it was to be limited by the constitution, because that might defeat the conventional law of the and subjected to the control of the States in the Senate, whole. There is nothing new, or suggested now for the where their sovereignty was equal. It was a political first time, in that operation of treaties which to some expower which so seriously affected the general policy of the tent affects and controls their domestic jurisdiction, and country, in its relations with other nations, as well as in its impairs, in some degree, what gentlemen have so tenaoperation on the prosperity of the States at home, that it ciously held to as the reserved rights of the States. Every was even considered unsafe to entrust it to a majority of treaty of limits must have that operation. The treaty of the States, and the concurrence of two-thirds of the Sena- 1783 abrogated all the State laws which impeded the retors was therefore required. For this purpose the Senate covery of British debts, and prohibited the States from is the council of the States, and the treaties are the acts passing any in future. Yet the old Congress had no jurisof the States. The Executive is little more, in that respect, diction over that matter, except as the result of the treatythan the agent or organ of the States, in matters of nego-making power. In the letter of Mr. Jefferson to Mr. Hamtiation. He may refuse to act at all, and shut the door of mond, of the 29th of May, 1792, he says that it was always negotiation, or decline to submit his preliminary arrange- perfectly understood that the treaties controlled the laws ments to the Senate. This was deemed to be quite as of the States-the confederation having made them oblimuch power as could be safely trusted to his discretion. gatory on the whole; that Congress had so declared and His will or his opinion, however, was nothing without demonstrated them; that the Legislatures and Executives their sanction. The treaties, therefore, express the will of most of the States had admitted it; and that the judiof the States, and not the capricious inclinations or the ciaries, both of the separate and general Governments, had pleasure of the Executive Department. They would have so decided. He stated further, that the formal repeal of been the supreme law of the land under the law of na- the laws of the States was all supererogation, and showed tions, without any express provision in the constitution, that Georgia herself had so considered it, and her courts but that sanction has been superadded, that there should had so adjudged. It is everywhere considered that these be no question of their supremacy. As they constitute laws of the States were annulled by the treaty. It would the public law of the country, the treaty-making power be quite easy to refer to numerous instances of the same was withheld from the Executive, because, under our con- sort, in various treaties since the adoption of the present stitution this was to be a government of law, and not of constitution. As it was foreseen that such must of neces prerogative, and especially not of executive prerogative; sity be their effect by the law of nations, that feature of for if his will was to have the force of law, that was, to the old confederation, which retains this power in the a certain degree, despotism. When the executive and the States have entered into a treaty, the constitution has attached its sanction to it, and given it all its efficacy.

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gentlemen speak is the totality of sovereignty, which exists most transcendental sovereignty of the States, and prosnowhere under our institutions. I consider that the States trates every other department of the Government. The have, in the strictest sense, retained to themselves, in the Executive may in other ways bring you into collision with Senate, their own control of their reserved rights in the foreign nations on his responsibility to those who may exercise of the treaty-making power. It is safely placed constitutionally call him to answer; but, in the case before there under their own conservation, and they are bound us, I consider that he has acted by open usurpation. It in good faith to the Union to respect the treaties which are should be quite enough that he may, in the exercise of his there entered into. They are represented and act there as confessed powers, force you into war against your own in their original capacity. They could not act with eon-will, without yielding to him the power to enthrone himvenience or usefulness in any other way. Their rights are self above the constitution. If on any question which insafe in their own council. What is constitutionally settled volves the construction of a treaty-much more its validity becomes their public law, and they are bound to observe he may assume the powers of the Senate, the Judiciary, it. It is not perhaps strictly a legislative power, though and Congress, there is no longer any power in the GovernMr. Madison has treated it, in a publication to which I ment which can be said to have been limited by the conshall presently refer, as partaking much of that character. stitution at all. It is a bold step indeed of executive preThe constitution declares that all legislative powers" rogative; and I have been surprised to find that gentlemen therein granted shall be vested in Congress. It is not, in this House have sat down so quietly under it. I was however, essential to the views which I take of the ques- anxious, in the early part of the session to know how it tion, to consider that point. might be received by the Senate, but my doubts were entirely removed when this bill appeared at your door. They have capitulated. They are completely disarmed, and have been marched out of their entrenchments without the honors of war. The duty of the Executive in this matter was exceedingly plain. If he doubted as to the validity or operation of these treaties, the examples of his predecessors were before him. He should have at least paused before he moved so rashly-have kept all things in the condition in which they stood, and submitted the whole case to Congress. The first suggestion made to the Cherokee delegation was right, and it is to be lamented that it was ever revoked or withdrawn. What is to be our security for our European treaties? If the Executive doubts as to the construction or validity of those, too, shall he cut the knot for himself, and dissolve their obligations? Our commercial treaties have no greater sanctity than any others. Is your foreign trade and intercourse with other nations to be at his mercy, too! I am not aware that the laws of Congress have any greater sanctions than your treaties. You have many treaties with other nations for the advantage of your citizens. Shall the Executive so deal with these, too, as to prostrate your navigation, or subject it to retaliation He may annul the stipulations of treaties made to favor your own trade; for if he can overleap the law of nations and the constitution, by revoking those which favor others, you have no better security than his will for yourselves. He can release them from their stipulations in your favor, as well as those which operate against them. If he should think that all his predecessors and former Senates have been wrong headed on other points, and that they have been too liberal to particular interests, or have favored commerce, or navigation, or manufactures too much, it is only for the Executive to put forth his prerogative, and your constitutional securities are in his hand.

The course of the Executive Department has overturned these constitutional securities of the States, and swept away their power. His doctrines fall nothing short of an assumption of the power of Congress to abrogate the public trea ties in a case of high and uncontrollable necessity, or by exercising the power of declaring war. If the friends of State rights propose to sanction the violation of these Indian treaties, they must bear him out to the full extent of this thoughtless usurpation. This question is not altoge ther new, though no stretch of executive prerogative like this has ever before occurred or been claimed under any administration. I presume that gentlemen are familiar with the history of the proclamation of neutrality, issued by General Washington in 1793. This declaration by the President of the disposition of the Government to remain at peace, and warning our citizens to abstain from any acts that might involve them or the Government in the war, was looked upon with jealousy. It was a topic of much remark, and was closely scrutinized. Yet it violated no treaty. It assumed to suspend none of our obligations, and settled no question arising upon them. General Washington neither claimed or exercised such a power. The proclamation was precisely what it professed to be, and no more. The administration assumed a posture of neutrality, and the proclamation declared the intention of the President not to change the relations of the Government, until Congress should convene and settle that question. In the mean time, our citizens were forewarned, that, if they mingled with the parties to the war, and took part with either side, the Government would not extend its power for their prosection. It was unanimously sanctioned in the cabinet Mr. Jefferson approved it, and has informed us that he admitted that the President, having received the nation, at the close of Congress, in a state of peace, was bound to preserve them in that state till Congress should meet gain, and might proclaim any thing which went no I am ready to admit that a case of high and uncontrolurther." Whether the proclamation was to be treated as lable necessity may occur, so deeply involving the fate of mplying a pledge of future neutrality, was another matter, the country, or so seriously affecting its safety, that the nd a speculative question. But General Washington and President, submitting himself to a high responsibility, may is administration were uncommitted to any such construc- feel it to be his duty to decline the execution of a treaty on of it, It was an abstract question, and the President, until Congress can be convened. But his duty in such a t the opening of the next session of Congress, laid the case is very clear. He may suspend acting upon it altohole subject before them for their constitutional action gether, but he has no power to determine such a question pon it. General Hamilton fully declared that no opinion of finally for himself. He must submit it to Congress. If a e President, on the point of neutrality, or the French gua- treaty is to be declared yoid, it is for Congress only to an

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nul it. The President and Senate cannot do it unless by trayed their country, and the power of that whole continegotiation. But, sir, these are extreme cases, and that nent is swayed by bands of reckless despote. Yet while before us is not one of them. The President has not acted, their liberties have been crushed, we find in Europe, that, or professed to act, with any such views. He has given in spite of the power of kingly alliances, the Parliament to the other party his own final determination of the ques- of one Government at least, and that, too, once the most tion, and has acted upon it throughout. He declined to despotic of them all, is successfully limiting the power and suspend the matter at all till the case could be sent here, influence of the Crown. Shall we, then, strengthen the and directed the Secretary of the War Department to in- hands of the Executive here as one of the securities of the form the Cherokee delegation that the course of the Go- rights of the States? I know very well the answer which vernment was changed, and to communicate to them his gentlemen are ready to offer on this occasion. We are to be final decision. He asks us now for no opinion upon it; told that his decision has been in favor of the States. It's but, considering it settled, we are called upon to appro- this which leads us to look upon his measures with compla priate some millions to relieve the other party from the cency, and this is the soothing opiate by which he has quietcondition to which his decision has reduced them. I know ed our fears. I should like to hear the answer to another that there is apathy here under these assumptions of the question: What will be the decision of the Executive in the Executive, but we are bound to resist these encroachments next case? Will that be in favor of the States, or against on the powers of Congress at the beginning. This is not them! 1 will tell you, sir. They will not be suffered to a distant alarm-the invader is within this hall-his mani- ask that question. When they have conceded the power festo is on your table, and at the next step we, too, shall to settle such a matter for himself, the Executive will take have surrendered at discretion. I have often thought that, care to exercise his new prerogative without consulting after all, those who usurp authority were not so much to them. We may see on this occasion in the clearest light blame as we commonly consider them to be, when we find the tendency of executive power in those collisions which others so ready to yield up the powers of Government occasionally spring up in every Federal Government be into their hands. Rome preserved her liberties until her tween the members of it and the head. This department public councils prepared the way for one family to esta- is constantly on the watch, and seldom fails to secure t blish itself on their ruins; and the Tudors and Stuarts did itself the arbitrament of every such matter. This third not rule in England by proclamation, until servile Parlia- party is ever lying in wait for power. Under some planments looked upon the advances of prerogative at least sible disguise it attracts the confidence of the parties, and with indifference. If these encroachments of the Execu- not unfrequently, by appeals to the pride as well as the tive Department are not met and repelled in these halls, interests of the States, it secures itself in its usurpations, they will be resisted nowhere. The only power which and leads them willingly to rivet their own chains. If the stands between the Executive and the States, is Congress. Executive had decided that all our former treaties with the The States may destroy the Union themselves by open Cherokees and Creeks had been void as to the eessions el force, but the concentration of power in the hands of the land which some of the States have received under them Executive leads to despotism, which is worse. Of the two should we not have witnessed a very different feeling here! evils, I should prefer the nullifying power in the States Should we not have heard something-and that too, quite -it is less dangerous, and admits of surer remedy. A earnestly-of plighted faith, of solemn treaties, and the single State may occasionally sit unquietly under the mea- constitutional securities of the States? By what process sures of Government, but the good sense of the people will of infatuation, or by what operation of self-love or State set all things right in the end. But the Executive De-pride, have we brought ourselves to yield to the Executive partment never yields up power. The whole Union will, Booner or later, feel the shock, if this control of our treaties shall be surrendered-the mischief will reach everywhere, and is irreparable. The judiciary may partially I find that we have entered into more than two hundred protect individual right, but there are two parties to the treaties with the Indian nations since the declaration of intreaties, and one of them will not always be under your dependence. Fifteen are with the Cherokees alone, and control. We have already reached a point in legislation at all but one of these have been made since the adoption ei this session, where we should pause, and seriously consider the present constitution. They have been made under in what [path we are advancing. There are several bills every administration from the time of General Washing now on your table, formally prepared in the committee ton. Commissioners for treating have been nominated to rooms of this House, and reported here, which confer powers the Senate, and regularly commissioned for this purpose. of an extraordinary character on the Executive. When Every Senate, since 1789, has ratified them, and they are you shall have passed the bill now under consideration, proclaimed by the Executive like all other treaties. The which places your territory west of the Mississippi at his statesmen whose names have sanctioned them, are, Washsole disposal, the two bills relating to the army and navy, ington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe. the reciprocity act reported a few days ago by one of my among them, too, the name of the present Chief Magiscolleagues, and yielded up the power claimed over your trate. It is in the face of such a case as this, that we have treaties, this Government will scarcely be a masked mo- heard the validity of Indian treaties denied, and the hisnarchy. The constitution will have become blank paper, tory of this Government, for half a century, treated as a and the first dictator may come to your table and write deliberate system of jugglery and imposture. If there is his decrees upon it at his pleasure. It may not become any foundation for the doctrines which have been put forth me to address an admonition to this House, and it would to justify ourselves in disregarding these treaties, we are profit nothing from me, or any man, if history has already done it so often in vain. But it is at least time for us, as prudent men, to open that book, at almost any page, and read the fate of all republics that have gone before us and perished; or, if we are not admonished by the past, to look around us, and see what is passing in the world in our own day. What is now the condition of South America, in whose emancipation we felt so deep an interest, and where we hoped to find the cause of free Government strengthened against the alliances of its enemies? Disunion has blasted our hopes. Slavish Congresses have there be

the power to pronounce these treaties to be worthless to the other parties? There can be no tyranny worse tha that which refuses to be governed by its own rules.

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bound to make out a case so clear that no plausible doubt can be started against us. Our path must be free, open, and unobstructed, and we must not only see that we can go there, but that we can do it with safety and honor. If there can be any doubt, it becomes us, if we regard our faith, to ask ourselves, as honest men, which party is entitled to the benefit of it in morality -the ignorant or the enlightened?-the weak or the strong -the defenceless or the powerful! We should take care that on such s question it shall not be said of us that we have thrown our sword into the scale. The Cherokee treaties, and our

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guaranties to them, have been made for compensations and granted all their lands to that State, and the occupagranted to us on the face of them. Now, what says natu- tion of certain portions of the lands thus ceded was alral justice in such a case? You have taken these compen-lowed them by the State in the same treaties. The Stocksations, and are in the enjoyment of them to this day. Can bridge and Brothertown Indians came into that State from you restore to the other party what you have taken from him, and what you tempted him to vield to you? Can you give back the rights which he has surrendered? Can you place him in the situation from which you have enticed him? Is this now in your power, if you were even dis posed to do it? These are questions, sir, which will be asked, and they ought to be asked. It is better for us to ask them now; for they must be answered, too-and an swered honorably, for you or your country is disgraced before the world. You are handling no light or trifling matter. You are pressed on every side by circumstances which should constrain prudent men to look well to their steps. While these treaties are lying open before you, and you are compelled to look such an array of names as these in the face, he must be a bold man, and one baving a very good opinion of himself, who can step forward and efface the most honorable portion of your history, and hold up the illustrious men who founded this Government as ignorant of the first principles of the constitution. I have too much confidence in the honor and justice of this House, to believe that we are prepared so soon to blemish the reputation of those names which we have been taught to venerate from our childhood.

some of the New England States. None of these tribes therefore hold any lands there under their native or original title. Whether they are to be treated as aliens or not, or whatever their relation to the State may be, they are subject, like all aliens as well as citizens, to the criminal jurisdiction of the State. But as these tribes as well as others have been placed under her protection, she has recognised her obligation to secure them against the frauds and encroachments of white men. She was bound in the treaties I have referred to, to do this as to their lands, and she has ever respected them honorably. Accordingly, it has been made unlawful for her citizens or any other than Indians to settle among them, or to purchase their lands, or to prosecute against them any action upon any contract in her courts. Surely New York may regulate the conduct of her own citizens in these matters as she pleases. But she has not stopped there. Agents and attorneys for them have been appointed, and paid too by the State to advise them in controversies among themselvès or with others, to defend them in all actions brought against them, and to prosecute for them. Yet I find these laws, passed for their protection, among those gravely reported from the Committee on Indian Affairs under a reI have carefully examined the report of the Committee solution of this House, and laid upon our tables, to show, on Indian Affairs, to find on what ground this bill is to be I presume, that New York claims the same power over supported; and, great as my personal respect is for the the Indian tribes and their lands, that Georgia, Alabama, gentlemen who are on that committee, I am constrained and Mississippi have done over the Indians within their to say that I have found in that paper subtle principles limits. Why, sir, if these laws are carefully examined, thrown out, but not established-ingenious doctrines start- they would show nothing to that effect, if these Indians ed, but not proved, and refined theories projected, which still held their lands and sovereignty under their native I think the history of the country will not sustain. The claim and right. So careful has New York been on the positions relied on to support the argument of the com- point of Indian title, that, although the Mohawks were mittee against the right of the Indian nations to soil or driven into Canada at the close of the revolution, and sovereignty, are, that "possession, actual or constructive, their country wrested from them by actual conquest, we of the entire habitable portion of this continent, was taken find that as late as the 29th of March, 1797, she purchased by the nations of Europe, divided out and held originally their title at a treaty held at Albany under the authority by the right of discovery as between themselves, and by of the Federal Government. It purports to have been the right of discovery and conquest as against the abori- made with "the Mohawk nation of Indians residing in ginal inhabitants;" that "although the practice of the the province of Upper Canada, within the dominions of Crown of England was not marked with an equal disre- the King of Great Britain," in the presence of Isaac Smith, gard" (as that of Spain) "of the rights of personal a commissioner appointed by the United States. By anliberty in the Indians, yet their pretensious to be the owners of any portion of the soil were wholly disregarded;" that "in all the acts, first of the colonies and afterwards by the States, the fundamental principle, that the Indians had no rights, by virtue of their ancient possession, either of soil or sovereignty, has never been abandoned either expressly or by implication," and that the recognition of these principles may be seen in the history of the Federal Government.

Before I proceed to a more particular examination of these positions, which have been advanced with so much confidence, I feel it to be a duty to the State which I have the honor in part to represent here, to say something of her policy towards the Indians within her limits. I have been somewhat surprised to hear on several occasions during this session, that New York had some interest in this question, and that her policy since the revolution would be found to sanction the principles which have been advanced in relation to the Cherokees. I feel bound not to let this opportunity pass, without setting that matter right. I deny, sir, that there is any just ground for these assertions, and more especially I deny that she has maintained any doctrines which go to impeach the sanctity or impair the obligations of any treaties made by the General Government with the Indian nations in that State. By the treaties of Fort Schuyler, of September 12th, 1788, September 22d, 1788, and of Albany, of February 25th, 1789, the Onondagas,Queidas, and Cayugas expressly ceded

other treaty, held at New York on the 31st of May, 1796, the State purchased of "the Seven Nations of Indians of Canada," all their claims to lands within her limits, reserving a small tract at St. Regis.

The Seneca nation still claim to hold their lands under their original title. But New York has no interest in them. The pre-emptive right was conveyed to Massachusetts many years ago, and is now held by individuals under purchases from that State. I have noticed in the Executive Journal, that on the 24th of February, 1827, a conveyance by treaty from the Seneca nation for part of their lands to some of these individuals, made in the presence of a commissioner of the United States, was laid before the Senate by Mr. Adams. On the 29th of February, 1828, a resolution to ratify it was negatived, the Senate being equally divided on the question. On the 26th of March, the following resolution was submitted by one of the Senators from Georgia, [Mr. BERRIEN.]

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Resolved, That by the refusal of the Senate to ratify the treaty with the Seneca Indians, it is not intended to express any disapprobation of the terms of the contract entered into by the individuals who were parties to that contract, but merely to disclaim any power over the subject-matter."

This resolution was modified on the 4th of April, by omitting the latter words, and inserting so as to read, "to disclaim the necessity of an interference by the Senate with the subject-matter," and passed in that form. These pro

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