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PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES

OF THE

CONVENTION

OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.71.37 Ore

1887-3°

TO PROPOSE

IENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION,

COMMENCED AT HARRISBURG MAY %, 1839.

VOL. V.

Reported by JOHN AGG, Stenographer to the Convention:

ASSISTED BY MESSRS. WHEELER, KINGMAX, DIAKE, AND X'KINLEI.

HARRISBURG:

PRINTED BY PACKER, BARRETT, AND PARKE.

1838.

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Mr. Grazas, tren the cominittee appointed for the purpose of ascerluan ni Neporting to the Convention the most eligible place for the

eens of the Convention during the sessions of the state legislature,

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That day have given the subject due deliberation; and notwithstand

der canest desire to bring the labours of the Convention to a speedy Chate, are un timously of opinion, that it is impracticable to do so prior 10 lat te ei die meeting of the legislature. Many of the important sus Turha have been agitated, have not yet been acted upon; and it

sa il return for the confidence reposed in this body by the peopitu Peraylvania, to pass upon any of the important principles con

Se fundamental law of the government, without a reasonable

tune lo refertion and discussion.

people of this commonwealth will look to this body for full story reasons for all the changes proposed to the existing Cone un and are therefore not anxious that the Convention should?

up and rashly, for the purpose of making a speedy disposition
bibenious a subject as is now submitted to their deliberation.

mittee are unanimously of opinion, that it would greatly ou de business of the Convention, as well as of the legislature

after the meeting of that body, and that the most Sur place lor the Convention to assemble to finish their lavors

The your committee are unanimously

aun in Harrisburg after the meeting of that

o finish their labors, will

PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES

OF THE

ONVENTION HELD AT HARRISBURG.

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1837.

Ir. MARTIN submitted the following motion, which was agreed to,

That the Convention will to day dispense with the daily recess, and 2n it adjourns, will adjourn to meet again at nine o'clock on Monday ning.” Ir. Cochrax, from the committee appointed for the purpose of ascerng and reporting to the Convention the most eligible place for the ions of the Convention during the sessions of the state legislature, e the following report, viz: hat they have given the subject due deliberation; and notwithstandheir earnest desire to bring the labours of the Convention to a speedy , are unanimously of opinion, that it is impracticable to do so prior e time of the meeting of the legislature. Many of the important tions which have been agitated, have not yet been acted upon; and it ld be an ill return for the confidence reposed in this body by the peoof Pennsylvania, to pass upon any of the important principles cond in the fundamental law of the government, without a reasonable for reflection and discussion. hat the people of this commonwealth will look to this body for full atisfactory reasons for all the changes proposed to the existing Con. ion, and are therefore not anxious that the Convention should act visedly and rashly, for the purpose of making a speedy disposition momentous a subject as is now submitted to their deliberation. hat your committee are unanimously of opinion, that it would greatly d the business of the Convention, as well as of the legislature, to in in Harrisburg after the meeting of that body, and that the most le place for the Convention to assemble to finish their labors, will

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nia. Your committee, therefore, offer the fol

Nr. SHELLITO Was authorized, he said, to say that the people of Har. neburg world fit op a place for the meeting of the Convention at their

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on do adjourn on Saturday, the 18th instant, to meet in dnesday, the 22d inst, en on the second reading of the resolution, it tive; yeas 58, nays 19. ster, moved to amend as follows:

adjournment of this Convention to meet at - place, would be attended with great delay and

of its business, and a consequent increase of -ealth: and that therefore the adoption of such edient and improper : likely that the business of the Convention will be brought meeting of the legislature, when this body deems it right

that a place may be prepared for the holding of its sesary of this Convention is hereby directed (under the superent,) to have the partition between the supreme court and

in this capitol removed, and have the same, or some ace, furnished in a plain and cheap manner, for the tempo

Mr. Stevens hoped the gentleman would withdraw the motion to post-
pote. The interties of Harrisburg had ofered to fit up a room at their
OVI Esperse. He called for the reading of the communications of the
commissioners di Lecphin county, and the corneal of Harrisburg, which
being read on the secretaris,

Me Snte mihdrew his motion
1. Eltester then modified his amendment, by omitting the last sen-

, weka related to the adjournment of the Convention sine die, on
te tid de Deraber zert.

M. Korner vaid, that the con inunications of the authorities of Har-
TEVES, went ni esplicit as to whether they would fit up a room at their

Te espesse mght tam out that after the room was fitted up, the
bill would be presented to the Convention for payment, as had been done
ca a former ocasion. The legislature having to pay the expense of
biting up a tem for the supreme court, which it was understood the
man kann d Dauphin county would fit up. The communication of
the mi of Philadelphia, however, were clear on this point, that they
munid fotopa mam at their own expense. He, therefore, called for the
Pealking del bis ein ninetion, and it was read to the Convention,
W: M'D»vel bede z few remarks as to the propriety of finding

kan det eventer dan in Harrisburg, for the Convention.
W: HESTER made some explanations in reply to the remarks of Mr.
A Dopull and then called for the yeas and says on kis amendment

ttee, moved to postpone the further consideration her with the resolution until Monday week. or the yeas and nays on the motion to postpone, d were yeas 36, nays 71, as follows: Barndollar, Brown of Northampton, Clark, of Dauphin, ger, Crain, Crawford, Crum, Cummin, Curll, Darrah, DickGilmore, Hayhurst. Hiester, Keim, Kerr, Maclay, Magee, tontgomery, Nevin, Read, Rogers, Royer, Seltzer Shellit), hel-36. Ayres, Baldwin, Barclay, Bedford, Biddle, Brown, of PhilaChandler, of Philadelphia, Chauncey, Clarke, of Beaver, pe. Cox, Craig, Cunningham, Denny, Dickev, Dillinger, ming, Forwani, Foulkrod, Fry, Grenell, Harris, Hastings, pull, of Allegheny, Hopkinson, Houpt, Hyde, Ingersoll, her, Krebs, Long, Lyons, Mann, Martin, M’Dowell. MereHock, Purviance. Reigart, Riter, Russell, Saeger, Scheetz, il. Sturdevant, Tazzart, Thomas, Told, Weaver. White,

The question than recurring on the amendment of Mr. HIESTER, the deset ta priez continued by Messrs. Brown, of Philadelphia, and

en Mr. Stztess gog rested to Mr. Hiester, to withdraw his amend. Denk and to substitute therefor a resolution to the effect that this conpertise will continue its sessions at Harrisburg, provided the town coun. 4d Harisbarg, and the commissioners of the county of Daupbin, will A up a proper place at their own expense, and notify the Convention of er determination within one week from this time." Mt. Hiermee declining to accept this modification, the question was teken ez bis amendmeni which was decided in the negative, by the lol

nt, President-71. tpone was determined in the negative. re, then moved to postpone the further considerautil Wednesday next, and called for the yeas and hich were ordered. delphia county, thought the Convention was as his question now, as they would be at any future s economy, he thought the sooner it was setiled

I lles Banks, Bandollar, Belford, Bigelow, Brown, of Northampton, pres, Clarke, of Indiane, Cleavinger, Craig, Crain. Crawford, Cammin, Cull,

pen, Greactar, Hayburst, Hiester, Kein, Kerr, Magee, M'Call, Merkel, apmery, Nesin, Read, Rover, Sellers, Beltzer, Shellito, Sill, Smyth, Steri

Mests. Aguer, Ayres, Baldwin, Barclas, Biddle, Brown, of Philadelphia, Ulander, of Philadelphia, Channces, Clarke, of Beaver, Clark, of Dauphin, Les Cochran, Cope, Cor, Crum, Cunningham, Denny, Dickey, Dillinger,

Carte. Farelly, Fleming, Forward, Foulkrod, Fry, Fuller, Gilmore, Grenell, La Histuses, Hays, Helffenstein, Henderson, of Allegheny, Hopkinson, Houpta

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ipa, was as much in favor of economizing as any would turn out between this and Wednesday next, larrisburg would provide a room for the Convenason for going to the expense of moving to Phila

Vr. Shellito was authorized, he said, to say that the people of Har. burg would fit up a place for the meeting of the Convention at their 'n expense. Mr. Stevens hoped the gentleman would withdraw the motion to postne. The authorities of Harrisburg had offered to fit up a room at their in expense. He called for the reading of the communications of the mmissioners of Dauphin county, and the council of Harrisburg, which ing read by the secretary, Mr. Smyth withdrew his motion. Vr. Hiester then modified his amendment, by omitting the last sennce, which related to the adjournment of the Convention sine die, on 2 22d of December next. Vr. Reigart said, that the communications of the authorities of Harburg, were not explicit as to whether they would fit up a room at their n expense. It might turn out that after the room was fitted up, the I would be presented to the Convention for payment, as had been done a former occasion. The legislature having to pay the expense of ing up a room for the supreme court, which it was understood the mmissioners of Dauphin county would fit up. The communication of ? council of Philadelphia, however, were clear on this point, that they ruld fit up a room at their own expense. He, therefore, called for the ding of this communication, and it was read to the Convention. Mr. M'Dowell made a few remarks as to the propriety of finding commodations elsewhere than in Harrisburg, for the Convention. Mr. Hiester made some explanations in reply to the remarks of Mr. 'Dowell, and then called for the yeas and nays on his ainendment ich were ordered. The question then recurring on the amendment of Mr. Hiester, the zate was further continued by Messrs. Brown, of Philadelphia, and AD, of Susquehanna. When Mr. Stevens suggested to Mr. Hiester, to withdraw his amend. nt, and to substitute therefor a resolution to the effect “ that this Con. ition will continue its sessions at Harrisburg, provided the town counof Harrisburg, and the commissioners of the county of Dauphin, will ip a proper place at their own expense, and notify the Convention of ir determination within one week from this time." Ir. Hiester declining to accept this modification, the question was en on bis amendment which was decided in the negative, by the foling vote : BAS---Messrs. Banks, Barndollar, Bedford, Bigelow, Brown, of Northampton, Inhers, Clarke, of Indiana, Cleavinger, Craig, Crain, Crawford, Cumınin, Curll, ah, Dickerson, Gearhart, Hayhurst, Hiester, Keim, Kerr, Magee, M'Call, Merkel, 1, Montgomery, Nevin, Read, Royer, Sellers, Seltzer, Shellito, Sill, Smyth, Steri. Stickel, Taggart-36. AYS--Messrs. Agnew, Ayres, Baldwin, Barclay, Biddle, Brown, of Philadelphia, y, Chandler, of Philadelphia, Chauncey, Clarke, of Beaver, Clark, of Dauphin, e, Coates, Cochran, Cope, Cox, Crum, Cunningham, Denny, Dickey, Dillinger, lop, Earle, Farrelly, Fleming, Forward. Foulkrod, Fry, Fuller, Gilmore, Grenell, ris, Hastings, Hays, Helffenstein, Henderson, of Allegheny, Hopkinson, Houpt,

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